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Fwd: What does the word “Jew” mean to you? (John 3:25)



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Monday w/ Mounce

What does the word "Jew" mean to you? (John 3:25)

One of the changes that happens in language is how you refer to people groups. This isn't a matter of being politically correct; it is a matter of being sensitive and not unnecessarily offensive.
Identify a person primarily (or at least initially) by their ethnicity can give the impression of relational conflict and even hostility when it may not be intended. Imagine a British person seeing an Irish person he doesn't know, and saying, "Hey Irish." Or a white person saying, "Hey African." Or a European seeing a tourist from New York and saying, "American."
A good example of this is in John 3:25. Jesus (and his disciples) and John were baptizing, and the Gospel records that "a dispute arose between John's disciples and a Jew (Ἰουδαίου) about purification" (CSB, also NASB, ESV, NRSV). Translating the anarthrous Ἰουδαίου as "a Jew," given the history of anti-semitism throughout the world, is probably not the best choice. (The KJV accepts the variant plural reading, "Jews.")
Other translations try to not make the same mistake by translating "a certain Jew" (NIV, NET, NLT). "Certain" is their attempt to render the anarthrous Ἰουδαίου and avoid any sense of being pejorative.
But to my ears, "certain" introduces a foreign concept — that there was something special about this one particular Jewish person. He was not just "a" person but a "certain" person, a "specific" person. That is certainly not John's intention.
This is part of the challenge of translation. Words carry so many slightly different nuances to different people, and it is common for one person to hear something that others don't hear.
I would prefer "a Jewish person." There is no stereotyping, and it translates the anarthrous construction better.
By the way, this is somewhat similar to addressing people with disabilities. While older translations may refer to the "lame," in today's polite and sensitive speech you would never lead with the description of the disability, as if the disability defines the person. He or she is a person who is unable to walk. This isn't being politically correct; it is being polite and sensitive.


                                                                                                   



This is a lesson on the meaning of Galatians 5:24

Once I teach you about this and you take the corrective steps in your own life, be sure and share it with everyone else, and point out to them that you have done this in your own life and discovered it is possible therefore everyone else can do it in their own life.-Rick Livermore


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5:24 Paul describes repentance metaphorically as a crucifixion of the old life of sin, turning from it fully and finally. The tense of the verb indicates a decisive act, which we performed at our conversion.-Hayford, J. W. (Ed.)[2]


Jack Hayford said that the tense of the verb indicates a decisive act. The tense of the verb he is calling a decisive act is Aorist and the verb he is referring to is "Have Crucified." The grammarmorphology is Verb Aorist Active Indicative 3rd Person Plural or VAAI3P  therefore you could add specific things to the sentence to better translate it as follows: We have all performed at ourconversion the decisive act of crucifying our flesh with its passions and desires. -Rick Livermore


crucified
estaurōsan
σταυροω
stauroō
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The Revised Standard Version. (1971). (Ga 5:24). Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.

B. Verbs.
1. stauroo (σταυρόω, 4717) signifies (a) "the act of crucifixion," e.g., Matt. 20:19; (b) metaphorically, "the putting off of the flesh with its passions and lusts," a condition fulfilled in the case of those who are "of Christ Jesus," Gal. 5:24, RV; - W. E. Vine [3]



Metaphorically speaking we are now looking back at that point of time indicated by the Aorist Tense in the present with confidence because we are hounded with the temptations that have other scriptures that we rely on in the perfect tense to make it through with Gods Spirit giving us the victory. For example -Rick Livermore
1 John 3:6
The words "abideth" and "sinneth" are used here to designate a certain class of individual. Character is shown by one's habitual actions, not the extraordinary ones. The tense of the verbs is present, the kind of action, continuous, habitual. Thus, "every one who habitually is abiding in Him," is a saved person, and, "every one who habitually is sinning," an unsaved person. A Christian as a habit of life is abiding in fellowship with the Lord Jesus. Sin may at times enter his life; But sin is the exception, not the rule. The unsaved person as a habit of life sins continually. "Sinneth" is present in tense, continuous action being indicated. The person who is abiding in Christ is not habitually sinning. The child of God as a habit of life, does righteousness, and sin is not a habit with him. John is not teaching sinless perfection here. Vincent says: "John does not teach that believers do not sin, but is speaking of a character, a habit. Throughout the Epistle, he deals with the ideal reality of life in God, in which the love of God and sin exclude each other as light and darkness." He does not deny that a Christian sins at times. Indeed he admits the possibility of sin in the Christian's life in 1 John1:9, and forbids sin in 1 John 2:1. What John denies here is that a Christian sins habitually. He denies that the life of a Christian is wholly turned towards sin as is that of the unsaved person.
He asserts however that "Everyone who keeps on continually sinning, has not seen Him neither known Him." This is an unsaved person. The verbs "seen" and "known" are in the perfect tense, implying that he has neither seen nor known God in times past, with the present result that He is still invisible and unknown to him. The particular word for "see" here means "to see with discernment."

Translation: Everyone who in Him is constantly abiding is not habitually sinning. Everyone who is constantly sinning has not with discernment seen Him, nor has he known Him, with the result that that condition is true of him at present.-Kenneth S. Wuest [4]



This concludes the lesson on the meaning of Galatians 5:24
You have read about this and you need to take the corrective steps in your own life, then you need to be sure and share it with everyone else, and point out to them that you have done this in your own life and discovered it is possible therefore everyone else can do it in their own lives.-Rick Livermore

Appendix / Bibliography



[1]The Revised Standard Version. (1971). (Ga 5:24). Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.

[2] Hayford, J. W. (Ed.). (1997). Spirit filled life study Bible (electronic ed., Ga 5:24). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson. 

[3] Vine, W. E., Unger, M. F., & White, W., Jr. (1996). Vine's Complete Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words (Vol. 2, p. 138). Nashville, TN: T. Nelson.

[4] Kenneth S. Wuest, Wuest's Word Studies from the Greek New Testament – Volume 2, (Grand Rapids, MI: Wm. B. Eerdmans, 1973), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, 147-148


                                                                                                   


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This week we will take a different approach.   Typically, I suggest avoiding commentaries when reading scripture.    Since we have read and studied the book of Galatians, we'll take this week to discuss several interpretive challenges presented in Galatians.   We will use what we've learned to discuss the following challenges.
1. Baptismal regeneration – a big phrase that means baptism is necessary for salvation.   After our study, how do you feel about baptism being necessary for salvation?  Why?…..the scripture that is in question is Gal 3:27

27 For all of you who were abaptized into Christ have bclothed yourselves with Christ. NASB95

3:27 baptized into Christ have put on Christ Believers who have been baptized have participated in Christ's death and resurrection (see 2:19; compare Rom 6:6). Paul does not, however, present baptism as a replacement for circumcision; faith in Christ Jesus is the only requirement for entrance into the family of God (Gal 3:26).

27 as manyMat. 28:19Mat. 28:20Mar. 16:1516Ac. 2:38Ac. 8:36–38Ac. 9:18Ac. 16:15Ac. 16:31–33Ro. 6:3Ro. 6:41 Co. 121 Co. 13Col. 2:10–121 Pe. 3:21putJob 29:14Is. 61:10Lu. 15:22Ro. 3:22Ro. 13:14Ep. 4:24Col. 3:10.


Authority and submission, especially between men and women.    What are your thoughts on authority?  
There have been extremes that people have gone to with authority and submission. We should never take those things to extremes again!

Why?  People who try to chase after authority over everyone and who want everyone to submit to them have no concept of the command to submit one to another in the fear of God
  The scripture in question is 3:28.

28 aThere is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is 1neither male nor female; for byou are all one in cChrist Jesus. NASB95

a3:28 neither Jew nor Greek Paul emphasizes that the standard categories that often divide people—race, social status, gender—do not apply to those who are in Christ. It is not that such criteria cease to exist; rather, these distinctions are not grounds for exclusion from the life that God offers to all people in Christ. Because God is one (v. 20), He seeks to establish through Christ a single, unified familyThe Faithlife Study Bible Copyright 2012 Logos Bible Software. 


Can a person lose his/her salvation? This is a great question and Charles Spurgeon was able to sort it out: "
Armenian (Wesleyan) vs Calvinistic argument that has gone on for centuries. The sovereignty of God versus the free will of man.  Spurgeon   answered it best when he said they are parallel pillars of truth and friends that never need to be reconciled." Source: Comment to this question posted on a separate blog under the same family of blogs by UnknownOctober 22, 2018 at 7:08 PM
Why?  
The scripture in question is Gal 5:4.

 4 You have been severed from Christ, you who 1are seeking to be justified by law; you have afallen from grace. NASB95

15:4 attempting to be justified by the law Here Paul equates submission to circumcision with the attempt to be justified by the law. Seeking to be justified by means outside of Christ is foreign to the gospel message, and results in estrangement from Christ.  The Faithlife Study BiblCopyright 2012 Logos Bible Software. 
ayou have fallen from grace If someone depends on the law for justification, they have effectively rejected God's gift of grace in Christ.   The Faithlife Study Bible Copyright 2012 Logos Bible Software.

Finally, Paul erases the line between Israel and the church calling it "Israel of God" in Gal 6:16  What are your thoughts on the "Israel of God" that Paul describes?  Why?

16 And those who will 1walk by this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the aIsrael of God.

a6:16 Israel of God There are several ways of understanding this phrase. It could indicate those who come to faith in Christ and follow the rule described in Gal 6:15. It also could refer specifically to believing Jews.

Ga. 6:16 walkGa. 5:1625Ps. 125:45Phil. 3:16peace Ga. 1:3Nu. 6:23–271 Ch. 12:18Ps. 125:5Jno. 14:2716:33. See on Ro. 1:7Phil. 4:7.the Israel. Ga. 3:7–929Ps. 73:1Is. 45:25Ho. 1:10Jno. 1:47Ro. 2:28294:129:6–8Phil. 3:31 Pe. 2:5–9.

For this discussion, you are free to consult commentaries and other scripture to support your positions.    Always remember the context of the scripture and to take care to maintain the context for discussion……these are items we need to wrestle with and align our thoughts with those of God.   

Looking forward to the discussion on Tuesday……grace and peace to you. 

Nathan

Appendix / Bibliography

[1]Holy Bible, New American Standard La Habra, CA: The Lockman Foundation, 1995. WORDsearch CROSS e-book.

[2]The Faithlife Study Bible Copyright 2012 Logos Bible Software.  Faithlife Study Bible NIV FSB Barry, J. D., Mangum, D., Brown, D. R., Heiser, M. S., Custis, M., Ritzema, E., … Bomar, D. (2012, 2016). Faithlife Study Bible (Ga 1:1–8). Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press. NIV, Faithlife Illustrated Study Bible, Hardcover BIBLICAL INSIGHTS YOU CAN SEE AUTHOR:  JOHN D. BARRY,  DEREK R. BROWN  DOUGLAS MANGUM PUBLISHER:  ZONDERVAN PUB HOUSE  DATE:  09/2017

[3]The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge Blayney, B., Scott, T., & Torrey, R. A. with Canne, J., Browne. (n.d.). The Treasury of Scripture knowledge London: Samuel Bagster and Sons.